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romney is reacting to that. he's said clearly i'm not going to increase the tax burden of the middle class. i think the problem is that he hasn't given any details that allow us to see a plan that does add up. as he said yesterday, he's not promising a tax cut, he's promising tax reform. the question that people have, the reason reasonable question, let's see details. >> what does mitt romney, what does the republican party define as middle class? if you look at martin feldstein's analysis, a romney guy you have to raise taxes on people making between $100,000 and $200,000 a year which is in certain cities decidedly middle class the definition of middle class is bipartisan issue. president obama defines it anyone making up to $200,000. if you're making 100,000, 150,000, 200,000 you're in the top few percentage points of this country. even in expensive places people making $150,000 have a pretty tenuous claim on being middle class when you look at the numbers. >> thank you to david leonhardt of "the new york time
romney is reacting to that. he's said clearly i'm not going to increase the tax burden of the middle class. i think the problem is that he hasn't given any details that allow us to see a plan that does add up. as he said yesterday, he's not promising a tax cut, he's promising tax reform. the question that people have, the reason reasonable question, let's see details. >> what does mitt romney, what does the republican party define as middle class? if you look at martin feldstein's...
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romney/ryan. romney/ryan. there you go. >> governor romney says that 47% of americans will vote for president obama because they are dependent on the government. this has sparked a lot o reaconou whid ryn by that? >> yes. he was obviously inarticulate at making this point. >> joining me in studio is nbc contributor and daily beast columnist meghan mccain and son gh pic columnist wrotet re. a satire call piece about romney and ryan and spoke to my colleague jansing. >>aul ryan is treated like a surrogate. he doesn't get to cose his own staff. he has a sta l mitt romney around him every minute. he is told what to say and told what to do. that's fine as long as romney is winning. but romney is not winning. he's losing. esti candidate to act in his or her own way to unleash sarah palin to start attacking barack obama more. >> so meghan, as we all know. your dad certainly dealt wit tensions within the ticket of himself, sarah palin, for any o esendesgh behind the scenes there is ego, ambition, and the perception of
romney/ryan. romney/ryan. there you go. >> governor romney says that 47% of americans will vote for president obama because they are dependent on the government. this has sparked a lot o reaconou whid ryn by that? >> yes. he was obviously inarticulate at making this point. >> joining me in studio is nbc contributor and daily beast columnist meghan mccain and son gh pic columnist wrotet re. a satire call piece about romney and ryan and spoke to my colleague jansing. >>aul...
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he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the american people need to decide for themselves. >> take it in the reverse, how often, you could say in not so friendly democracies, america over the years may have gotten involved in leadership elections, but in some of the most friendly allies, how often do american presidents do that? >> they generally stand back, let the american people make a decision. in fact, at this time which is a volatile time in that part of the world, what is also striking to me is that this gives president obama cover to some degree, not just on the iran issue. >> take
he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the...
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romney's 47% remark. let's play it. here it is. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, and to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them. >> that is one tough ad. you're putting faces to those words. amie has the romney camp come up with any effective counter to it or is this going to be a theme for the next 38 days? >> i think it will be a theme for the next 38 days. they are trying to respond to it. you saw this week, he touted his health care law in massachusetts, which was a little awkward for him. but he's kind of showing that he does have an empathetic side. but meanwhile the obama campaign is also coming back. they're releasing new web ad this morning. they're slamming h
romney's 47% remark. let's play it. here it is. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, and to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them....
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romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a poible dezooe knit of awkwaressterys rn romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded ke a lost member of the romney tribe. re reminding people who is the campaign pate tree yashg. >> i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president, not him. >> ryan doesn't always seem to get the message. in days he's been reportedly acting like a rebellious teageroingk t hld ways and giving power point presentations at campaign rallies. >> we can't keep spending money we don't have. today our federal government for every dollar it spends it borrows cents on that dollar. ouy at the top there,ks ar our debt is going to be 2.5 times the size of our economy. >> according to the former political director of the iowa republican party, ryan may have no choice, quote, i hate
romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a poible dezooe knit of awkwaressterys rn romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded ke a lost member of the romney tribe. re reminding people who is the campaign pate tree yashg. >> i'm putting it back into...
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romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney has a new ad in ohio. some wouldn't sound out of place if he were a labor leader. >> fewer americans are working today than when president obama took office. it doesn't have to be this way, if obama would stand up to china. >> china bashing always works in primary campaigns and general election campaigns in places like ohio. the obama campaign is countering in its own new add. the first in the campaign trying to use can 47% comment against him. >> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax. including veterans, elderly, the disabled. >> my job is not to worry about those people. sfwl
romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney...
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as the moderator and obama will come after him. >> the way the rules work here i get 60 seconds. anderson -- >> you knew you had illegal -- >> would you please wait. >> with mitt romney, is there ever such a thing as a crisis averted? >> i think as people look at his record and imagine him debating obama, obama is going to laugh at him. >> you ask me an entirely different question. >> now alex is out today on vacation on the planet of jupiter but did leave behind a special gift we on behalf of alex wagner want to congratulate ben smith on reaching 100,000 twitter fo
romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as...
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same place mitt romney earned his a. if romney won the house, he uld heirst joint j.d. and mba. do you have a political trivia question to be on the show? e-mail us. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with cottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dlar tres are just the start. try our easy-to-use more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. challenge the need for such heavy measures with olay. regenerist micro-sculpting serum for firmer skin in 5 days. pretty heavy lifting for such a lightweight. [ female aouncer ] ay regenerist. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ [ female announcer ] fresh milk and real cream makes philadelphia and the moment a little richer. >> let's bring backur panel. so, yesterday we joked about claire mccaskill waiting until after the deadline to go up with the first attack ad. then we got this from
same place mitt romney earned his a. if romney won the house, he uld heirst joint j.d. and mba. do you have a political trivia question to be on the show? e-mail us. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with cottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dlar tres are just the start. try our easy-to-use...
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. >> and while the president took a shot at mitt romney over the economy, romney was hammering him over foreign policy. insistinthe president's comments about bumps in the road in the middle east were out of line. >>se are developments we do not want to see. >> i want to bring iny fan tak fan takes sick panel, andrea mitchell, jamie rubin and "time" od s all of you. an dra dree arlet me have you s the stage. >> the president will give a tough speech, he'll say containment is not an option regarding ir. buthe ar wor wil codicted by the fact that he's leaving so quickly and by the criticism that he's not meeting with foreign leaders. i think they could have made the argument that he's not going to be here when netanyahu arrives for thursday's speech, but to say that he's not going to meet with president morsi who has been giving very intti interviews and is really at an infliction point, leaving that to the secretary of state, this is the first time and in election years past presidents in both political parties have met one-on-one with foreign leads. tu'r ay rt >> let's talk about the ca
. >> and while the president took a shot at mitt romney over the economy, romney was hammering him over foreign policy. insistinthe president's comments about bumps in the road in the middle east were out of line. >>se are developments we do not want to see. >> i want to bring iny fan tak fan takes sick panel, andrea mitchell, jamie rubin and "time" od s all of you. an dra dree arlet me have you s the stage. >> the president will give a tough speech, he'll say...
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yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this line yesterday, they tried to hammer obama on taxes. take a listen. >> he's got one new idea. i admit this. he has one thing he did not do in his first four years he said he's going to do in the next four years which is to raise taxes. is there anybody who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? >> no. >> ryan's expression back there when he looks over at portman, kind of intriguing. it would be curious what a thought bubble would be going on over there. but it's a little bit of a change for romney. he had often been a
yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this...
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romney? >> well, it was -- obviously it was a one-on-one conversation. i know a little about it. they talked about what prime minister netanyahu meant about red lines, what his views were on the current state of play with iran. governor romney also sought out the prime minister's views on developments in the arab world. there is this sense of an unraveling going on right now throughout the middle east in many capitals, poses a threat to the united states. it poses real threats to israel on its borders and he just wanted his state of play. understand this is a relationship, piers. prime minister netanyahu and governor romney go back a number of decades. theyorked together in business when they were both graduates from business school. they've kept in touch over the years. so prime minister netanyahu is someone that the governor reaches out to from time to time just to get his perspectives on the region and he certainly felt that given what's going on right now, in addition to the iranian crisi
romney? >> well, it was -- obviously it was a one-on-one conversation. i know a little about it. they talked about what prime minister netanyahu meant about red lines, what his views were on the current state of play with iran. governor romney also sought out the prime minister's views on developments in the arab world. there is this sense of an unraveling going on right now throughout the middle east in many capitals, poses a threat to the united states. it poses real threats to israel...
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romney among independents is winning by three points, so if romney's winning the independents and republicans, do you think in a battleground state like florida, he's nine points down? the answer is no. >> okay. that math doesn't actually work out because according to the florida poll, those who say they're most likely going to vote, 36% say they're democrats, 27% republicans and 33% independents, so as you can see, the math that karl rove laid out doesn't cessarhave to so. ere's ing in our panel h and talk about all of the polling here we do at cnn and howt rks. cnn poll one thing you may have heard is that the polls out there are assuminga higher turnout this election than last. a lot of people say that can't be so there wa so much passion and enthusiasm last time around. cnn polls do not ae any higher rnout, which isan important point of clarification. let's brg in ro martin om the democric avlon. that has becoma rallying cry. there have been a lot of carefully constructed polls put thery ose onhe right saying thepolls assume a highe turnout and they call more democrats than publics. so, i
romney among independents is winning by three points, so if romney's winning the independents and republicans, do you think in a battleground state like florida, he's nine points down? the answer is no. >> okay. that math doesn't actually work out because according to the florida poll, those who say they're most likely going to vote, 36% say they're democrats, 27% republicans and 33% independents, so as you can see, the math that karl rove laid out doesn't cessarhave to so. ere's ing in...
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governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade is our focus is too much in iraq. so we're happy to have this debate and will have it obviously. >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no, this was an event, a complex event. we're only talking a matter of weeks here. and so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the american people and i think again the focus needs to be how do we make sure that our facilities and our ambassadors and our personnel is secure going forward and that's what the focus is on. >> the chairman of the homeland security committee has called for susan rice to resign, does the president have confidence in susan rice? >> absolutely. >> what about the broader point here, security is so bad in benghazi, that the fbi can't even go in and investigate. what about the fact that there are talk of military options to find ambassador steven's killers? what is america doing to work its will to change the traject
governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade is our focus is too much in iraq. so we're happy to have this debate and will have it obviously. >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no, this was an event, a complex event. we're only talking a matter of weeks here. and so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the...
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romney's message than mr. romney does at his own rallies. at the same time, there was a satire in politico and it's been fueling speculation that the romney/ryan relationship is strained. >>> joan meg now, the author of that piece, chief political columnist for politico, roger simon. i thought it was pretty funny but some readers were confused that your piece was a satire. let me read an excerpt. reportedly, ryan has been marching around his campaign bus saying things like, if stench call, take a message, and tell stench i'm having finger sandwiches with peggy noonan and i'll text him later. politico added a editor's note clarifying about the satire, but i know some readers were indeed confused. tell me about what's been going on with this piece. the point and the reaction. >> sure. the point is that i didn't invent the word stench. i think if i had called mitt romney mr. stench it would have been in bad taste and i would never have done it. the fact is that word that phrase comes from the former political director of the iowa republican par
romney's message than mr. romney does at his own rallies. at the same time, there was a satire in politico and it's been fueling speculation that the romney/ryan relationship is strained. >>> joan meg now, the author of that piece, chief political columnist for politico, roger simon. i thought it was pretty funny but some readers were confused that your piece was a satire. let me read an excerpt. reportedly, ryan has been marching around his campaign bus saying things like, if stench...
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romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the party that would give tax cuts to the rich, it would not be possible. it's not credib
romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the...
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th is what mitt romney needs. the convenient yesterday with paul ryan where they were together for the first time since the convention, for the second time since the convention was really flat. here we have a big crowd but some are comparing it to a pryizcr nessarily a general election sized crowd. president obama will be at the university campus where there will no doubt be thousands if not tens of thousands. the governorereave -- a h wa gn introduction where he talked about how things are getting better in ohio. of course, they are. the unemployment rate is about 7.2% below the national average. so that's part of the headwind romney is fighting in this ste. g but, aga, th ishest o th ts. it's all about the economy. yesterday he made an interesting pitch to the crowd saying, i need you to go out and tuque to obama. vote for me this time. so they're really trying to target tho voters. as i heard you say earlier,n thpresland in crowd, the romney spinners are pushing back on the polls. they insist they're within the
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he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough tim
he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign....
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we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >> we have very much the same interests to make sure iran does not develop nuclear capability which would threaten the existence of israel. the threat, devastation, potentially of israel and other nations of the world. we must make every effort to prevent that from developing that nuclear capability. >> he has called for crippling sanctions to be put in place. >> the u.s. admitting they lost track of some of syria's chemical weapons and cannot rule out their ran or syrian rebels have them. >> there has been intelligence that there have been some moves that have taken
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romney has been sparring with rob portman the senator from ohio with mock debates. he will spend literally the next four days off the campaign trail heading preparing for it he will head to denver on monday. debate preps in boston. more closed door rehearsals leading up to wednesday. knows this is a big opportunity for him to regain momentum having slid in the polls for several weeks now. he talked a little bit on campaign plane as he was on his way back from philadelphia to boston where he will spend the weekend doing more research. watch. >> they will make the decision on what they believe is the best interest of the country and their own family. i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand. and if they do, i will get elected. romney was referring to the first opportunity to stand face to face with president obama and call him on what mr. romney has said has been a mischaracterization and deception of the the same holds on the other side of this. three presidential debates and one of the next this has never happened before in american polit
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mitt romney paid just 14.1% in taxes last year. he keeps millions in bermuda and the cayman islands, won't release his tax returns before 2010. maybe instead of attacking others on taxes, be romney should come clean on his. >> and this weekend the president made sure to highlight what is by now quite obvious to most americans namely that mitt romney is not strapped for cash. >> and i want to keep your taxes low. but i can afford to pay a little more and mitt romney sure can afford to pay a little bit more. >> meanwhile, the 2011 returns show romney actually paid more than he needed to. romney listed a little over $4 million in charitable donations but only claimed a deduction for $2.25 million. if he had taken the full deduction citizens for tax justice calculate he would have paid less than 11% in taxes. this move conflicts with the qualification romney himself established for presidential candidates earlier this year. >> i pay all the taxes that are legally required and not a dollar more. i don't think you want someone as the can
mitt romney paid just 14.1% in taxes last year. he keeps millions in bermuda and the cayman islands, won't release his tax returns before 2010. maybe instead of attacking others on taxes, be romney should come clean on his. >> and this weekend the president made sure to highlight what is by now quite obvious to most americans namely that mitt romney is not strapped for cash. >> and i want to keep your taxes low. but i can afford to pay a little more and mitt romney sure can afford...
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mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for example, this lie about the $719 billion the president is taking away from medicare beneficiaries -- >> it also feels like -- >> just keep saying it and it will be true. >> in addition to dishonesty and this flip-flopping and apparently lack of awareness about technology, it also feels like romney tends to move towards wherever he thinks there is power. i was just blown away. there is this moment where in a new web ad that the governor has where he does a cuddling up to the president that i want us to look at real quickly. >> president obama and i both care wi
mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy we saw on "60 minutes." he's been forced to run this eternal primary where he's constantly trying to please the farthest right base of the republican party and so he isn't really being allowed to make what is supposed to be a pivot to a general election candidacy. so i think the problem really is partly that. then they've tried to pull romney into the ryan mold. they vnld allowed ryan to do what he was picked to do, which is talks on policy because they understand that would be even more unpopular than what they're putting out there right now? >> is it that
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy...